Welcome to Calgary Expo (Alternate Opinions Unwelcome) : The Honey Badger Affair

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Things happen fast over social media. This weekend at The Calgary Expo in Alberta, Canada a collective known as the Honey Badger Brigade were accused of wrong-doing by people on social media and then very quickly removed and banned from the event. There has been a lot of noise, fury and competing stories on this issue, so I find it best to detail all the information I have been able to gather so far.

First of all the Facts: What happened and in what order?

The Honey Badge Brigade raised almost $10,000 in crowdfunding to bring some of their members, including comic artist Alison Tieman, and their merchandise to Calgary Expo 2015. Their stated goal was done openly: promote freedom of expression within gaming.

On Friday, some convention attendees and a number of people not attending the convention took to social media to remark on the “GamerGate booth” they were seeing. This is where the misinformation started, as they were the Honey Badgers who happened to be selling merchandise, some of which included: merchandise baring GamerGate logos and the mascot Vivian James.

Accusations that they had disrupted a Women in Gaming panel was leveled by some attendees.

There was a furor raised by people on social media, notably by Maya Kramer (formerly of Silverstring media), that garnered a reply from Calgary Expo that the booth was not a GamerGate booth and that they were “Looking into it.”

#ClargaryExpo explodes as a hashtag, with people tweeting support for the Honey Badgers as well as others condemning the “GamerGate Booth.” Confusion about what was actually going on started running rampant.

side comic 0.5Within a short period of time, Rachel Edwards, a Honey Badger member on the convention floor, confirms that the booth is being taken down and they are being removed from the convention. This is confirmed by other convention attendees.

Calgary Expo posts and then later deletes a tweet linking to a Mary Sue article, purporting the article to be the explanation for why The Honey Badgers were kicked from the convention, eventually putting out an official statement later. It is worth noting The Mary Sue is affiliated with the event.

A Voice for Men alleged that not only had the booth and attendees been removed, but members had been issued a life-time ban from all events owned by the event organizers, which includes female comics’ artist and creator Alison Tieman. The Honey Badgers also released the audio of the “confrontation” at the panel and a raw unedited version of the Women in Games panel.

Competing Statements

Here is the only official statement from Calgary Expo

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For contrast we have the Honey Badgers Statement in full:

Early this morning, Fan Expo Canada banned Honey Badger Brigade (HBB) from the Calgary Comics and Entertainment Expo (CalEx). Security staff approached the HBB booth, ordered us to leave, and refused to state the reason why unless Alison Tieman agreed to speak to them away from the other members of the group, without recording. They informed Alison that they had received complaints on social media, including 25 allegations of harassment. No evidence was presented, no request was made for information from HBB, and no specific incident was cited until further questions were asked of security.

Upon further questioning, security mentioned the Women in Comics panel discussion from the previous day, where Alison was given permission to speak. Alison spoke briefly in relation to a topic brought up by the panelists. Accusers, however, claimed that Alison derailed the conversation. Alison and myself were in attendance, and you can listen to Alison’s statement in the panel here on YouTube. You can hear Alison, myself and indeed the entire panel in the full discussion record.

As you will hear, there was no harassment. Expo staff and mob rule, in their crusade for ending harassment against women, harassed the Honey Badgers despite having no evidence of any policy violation. To those unfamiliar, HBB was founded by three women and has a highly diverse staff of volunteers, creators and lovers of free expression. Alison Tieman, a woman who spent 7 years writing graphic novels and fighting censorship, was censored by other women for speaking her mind, and advocating equal compassion for men, and true strength in character for women.

We ask all involved to question what it means to provide an open forum, and to examine how CalEx treats it’s patrons and exhibitors. Do they provide a safe space from harassment, or a safe space for the people who want to define what harassment means?

Please send press inquiries to xenospora@gmail.com for more information as the story develops. Also be sure to follow us on Twitter.

Nowhere in the Calgary statement does it cite a rule The Honey Badgers broke, or even mentions a specific case of wrongdoing they are accused of. This is a very weak and generalized statement and does not, in my mind, hold up as the basis for such harsh and quick action. Someone on Twitter summed it up best: “If that is going to stand as your official explanation, it is completely inadequate – and not even coherent”

Hitting the Presses

Immediate Media coverage followed. Headlines like “GamerGate Booth Kicked Out Of Canadian Comic Expo” abounded with many publications parroting The Mary Sue’s line of a “plan of infiltration,” praising the expo for expelling the Badgers. Kotaku using the headline “GamerGate Booth” is particularly disingenuous, as that was one of the myths even the Expo itself tried to dispel — once again serving as an example of oversimplified and dishonest clickbait. The word “infiltration” implies that the convention was closed off to these viewpoints from the start. Why would the “Straight White Patriarchy” that holds all the power, according to their internal logic, have to “infiltrate” anything? Their lies expose their in-build bigotry: that someone who supports GamerGate should not and would not be allowed to attend an expo. Once again, very little right of reply is given and once again judgement is rushed to within hours if not minutes in the race to be first, but not the race to be accurate.

Where Does This Leave the Convention Circuit?

side comic 1What it comes down to is this: You can’t control who is and isn’t in a fandom. When you have comic artists threatening to boycott any convention that has true equal representation then you have a problem. When you have mobs of people on social media dictating who can and can’t stay in the convention hall then you have a problem. Gaming and Comic conventions are not the political playthings of the organizers, or for a handful of big names. They belong to the community, to the fans. If there is sufficient economic demand for The Honey Badgers and they keep within the rules of the convention then there is no reason to remove them beyond sheer ideological bigotry. From the evidence in front of me and from primary sources, including a recording of the entire Women in Comics panel, I think I can safely draw this conclusion:  Calgary Expo ejected the Honey Badger Brigade under pressure from outspoken individuals on social media and made up a reason for their removal after the fact. The seeming lock-step with The Mary Sue and later deletion of their tweet shows their alleged reasons shifting as things unfold. By the time they had come up with their, frankly, empty statement, The Honey Badgers had already been ejected from the convention hall with no discussion or opportunity to defend themselves. They got railroaded, this is a farce predicated on, at best, dishonest bending of convention polices and, at worst, flat-out malicious lies. Through the series of events that took place, I see no way to justify their removal and banning.

I had feared things would progress like this since last year, but to actually see a group of “The wrong type of women” be thrown out of a convention on the whims of a twitter mob, most of whom were not attending the convention, is distressing. I think the word I am looking for is “Injustice.” Not very many things make me angry, but the cowards and bullies running Calgary Expo make me angry now because they have knowingly carried out an injustice for their own political expediency.

This is a signal that if you do not pass an ideological purity test then you are not allowed an equal platform. This is a real world example of expo organizers and social media mobs shouting “GO HOME GAMER GIRL!!”  to The Honey Badgers, most of whom are female. This mirrors earlier events where two separate Vivian James cosplayers were harassed, threatened and then abused at Magfest 2015, with one victim being a staff member of the even who went on to write a detailed account of the incidents. It also mirrors the attempts to ban actor Adam Baldwin from Supernova Expo in Australia.

Unsafe Safe Spaces, Exclusionary Inclusion Policies.

This is the polarization and politicization of the convention circuit.  This is creating an environment that is unwelcoming and the opposite of “safe”; where objections from people with the right connections can have you ejected and banned at any point arbitrarily. The Honey Badgers are openly supportive of GamerGate. They’ve never hidden that fact. Once Calgary had approved them, it was already too late. Now we have the worst of both worlds: you got the hopes up of these people, made them do a ton of work in creating merchandise and then banned them once they had set up. This is pretty cruel and could have been avoided by either: having the most basic background checks on hand if you really do want to turn your convention into a no-go zone for GamerGate supporters, or by having some human decency and allowing them to continue with their booth as long as no rules were broken.

Calgary had a much touted program called #ExpoEquality, where they claimed to be making a push towards inclusion, but as some have pointed out, their treatment and ejection of the Honey Badgers proves them false.

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When a small group of people are allowed to impose their will and create misery for those they have even a little power over, what do you call that? I call it bullying. I think this is a clear instance of a convention royally screwing the pooch and this will create both animosity and a dangerous precedent for the next time someone objects to… well anyone at a convention. Safe space culture is fundamentally unsafe and programs meant to encourage inclusion are fundamentally being used to create exclusion. Someone tweets about removing people from the convention and moments later they were removed, accompanied by much cheering and chest-beating from those who wish to police and lock down the convention circuit. This is not the sign of a healthy community and not a sign of a community that practices any level of political and ideological plurality. What Calgary Expo perpetrated this Friday was farcical, its stupidity second only to its dishonestly.  I want to leave you with one final thought. Remember the line about “Infiltration?” That was a line from a weary and sarcastic joke being taken out of context and used as part of the main basis for their removal. This joke has a serious message about how exclusionary the community has become and now comes off almost as foreshadowing. It reads:

In April of this year, the Honey Badgers plan to put on a booth at the Calgary Comics and Entertainment Expo! We plan to infiltrate nerd culture cunningly disguised as their own. Each of us has been carefully crafting a persona of nerdiness through decades of dedication to comics, science fiction, fantasy, comedy games and other geekery, waiting for this moment, our moment to slip among the unaware.

The coverage of this farce conveniently left out the last part, and it makes it all the more poignant as these events have unfolded:

Once there we will start distributing the totalitarian message that nerd and gamer culture is… perfectly wonderful just as it is and should be left alone to go its own way… Just letting creative communities create; consumers consume what they want; and gamers get down to the business of vidya without being judged.

I believe Videogames and Comics are wonderful too. If you’ll excuse me, I have to go and lie down for a while and consider what kind of community would ban artists and fans for the crime of upholding and promoting these beliefs.

Note: This article has been edited to fix a few grammatical errors. Also corrected “The Honey Badgers also released the audio of the “confrontation” with security…” as it was incorrect. “The Honey Badgers also released the audio of the “confrontation” at the panel…” is the corrected line.

Note 2: Alison Tieman has released a video response which can be seen here:

Note 3(10:17pm EST 4/18/2015): We had erroneously said that the Calgary Expo was owned by Fan Expo Canada. We have edited the line mentioning them to reflect this. It now says “…members had been issued a life-time ban from all events owned by the event organizers…”

Note 4(5:05pm EST 4/20/2015): This story just does not stop! On Sunday, a group of people that included The Honey Badger Brigade had the cops called on them by Calgary Expo security. Their crime? They were hanging out at a park… We can’t make this up.

Note 5(4:15am EST 4/25/15): Calgary Expo has responded to our request for more information and to answer questions with this reply:

“Thank you very much for reaching out to us. We sincerely appreciate that you took the time to write. Your message has been received and will be reviewed by our organizers.
All information was released last Friday regarding the situation.  The group in question did not adhere to the Expo policies and were asked to leave.
The feedback from our guests has always been an integral part of creating and continuing to build a great Calgary Expo. We take all of our guest feedback seriously, and this comment will be taken into consideration in the planning of future Calgary Comic & Entertainment Expos.”
Meanwhile, The Honey Badger Brigade has released a statement on their website saying that they will have a “significant press release” later today. The word we have is they have been able to obtain legal representation, so it will be interesting to hear what comes out of this development. We will keep you posted!
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John Sweeney (Scrumpmonkey) is a terribly British man with a background in engineering. He writes long-form editorial content with analysis of gaming, games media and internet culture. He also does the occasional video game retrospective with a weekly column about Magic the Gathering thrown in for good measure. He also does most of our interviews for some reason, we have no idea why. A staunch supporter of free speech and consumer rights; skeptical of agenda driven media and suspicious of unaccoutable authority but always hopeful for change.
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  • Person Person

    Since you’re fixing grammatical errors, can you change “most of which” to “most of whom” when referring to people? and in the last paragraph, you have to “lie down.” Thanks for an otherwise excellent article.

    • Josh Bray

      Thank you! Those are great suggestions, and they have been changed. We are working to be factually and grammatically correct here, and do admit to a little bit of rush getting it out the door. We very much appreciate the opportunity to smooth out rough spots.

  • The Watcher

    Well said.

  • http://www.avoiceformen.com TheBibo Sez

    Excellent work. Thank you.

  • Generaal

    I’m getting sick of this crap.

  • driversuz

    These thugs are not only bullies, they are stupid as well. It takes a special kind of idiot to bully the likes of Alison, and especially to do it publicly. She’s in the right, she’s far more intelligent than her harassers, she has more courage and determination in her pinkie finger than any ten of them have as a group.

    This will not end well for the organizers of Calgary Expo 2015.

    • PoeTentiate

      Who are they that they are this stupid?

      • driversuz

        They are privileged SJWs who have never needed to so much as wonder what it would be like to have their beliefs challenged.

    • Aguy

      It will end just fine for them, unfortunately. The vast majority of the con’s attendees will continue to attend future cons, the organizers will continue to make their money.

      • Paul Adams

        But more eyes will open up to the the BS that comes from social justice warriors.

      • http://thevailspot.blogspot.com/ Rich Vail

        My son and his fiance are huge con attendees, and they and their friends in Metro-Detroit are now planning to boycott all events by this presenter…furthermore, they’ll now go to the other side and start picketing any events in our area!

        • http://o.com CaptDMO

          Nooooooo! Perhaps they would simply consider conspicuously investing their assets elsewhere?
          Picketing (and logic) CAN be an astonishing waste of time/money when spent on SJW
          contrarian useful idiots, and idiot savants.

          • Bewildered

            The big mystery is how did it get this bad ?

          • Paul Adams

            We also live in a gynocentric world in which men bend over backwards to accommodate women. We also live in a technologically advanced world. More free time gives middle and upper class spoiled brats opportunities to make demands and see what they can get away with. Men trampling each other (especially in politics) to be the one who satisfies these demands just encourages the next demand to be that much more bold. And so on.

          • Chris Wedge

            Talk at them, to the ignorant. Because ignorance is cured by knowledge, stupidity and evil? Not so much.

          • http://thevailspot.blogspot.com/ Rich Vail

            Another thing they’ve done is to contact the sponsors in our area and tell them they will no longer be patronizing their businesses because the Expo company has chosen to restrict booth rentals on political beliefs…

      • scrumpmonkey

        Author here:
        Things don’t change over-night just like things did not get this way overnight. I am well aware of the uphill climb we have to make thing kind of reprehensible action punished economically. One thing is for sure though: if enough of us say “no more” as individuals our voice becomes unable to be ignored.

        Right now all we can do is warm people. I’m in this for the long haul and i think the truth will grind them down eventually. It has to.

        • http://o.com CaptDMO

          And we appreciate you warming people. I hear it gets pretty cold up in Canada.

          • scrumpmonkey

            That’s why they wear so many Toques and so much moose-skin.

      • ArsenicSpritzer

        There’s an email campaign underway that’s reaching out to the sponsors of their other shows. It won’t be shutting down any Expos, but it could make them feel a significant pinch in the pocket book. Much depends on how this gets played in the mainstream.

      • http://garycostanza.wordpress.com gary959

        How many real comics fans want to attend a convention of all feminists and SJWs who have an agenda, not a love of comics. Not many , I suspect.

    • Bewildered

      This will not end well for the organizers of Calgary Expo 2015.

      If there’s justice in this world then it positively shouldn’t end well.
      Authoritarians for a “noble” cause ? WTF?

      • Martin Krischik

        I don’t really get my hopes up. The maximum we can hope for is that the live-time ban is removed. But they never back-paddle.

        • ArsenicSpritzer

          The Honey Badgers are exploring legal options. In Canada, Alison is protected by the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which is not blocked by private domain. They can also bring the incident before the Canadian Humans Rights Council, which likewise has jurisdiction over private domains. In short, the organizers can be forced to prove they had sufficient grounds to expel her and the must do it in a public forum. This is the LAST thing social justice warriors ever want to be faced with. Being forced to confront the truth and explain their activities while under public scrutiny.

          This is far from finished.

          • Bewildered

            I am waiting with bated breath. May they be thoroughly disgraced.
            They are so used to capitalizing on their “virtue of the oppressed” card that it will be a big shocker for them to be dragged into court.
            Way to make the personal political ,eh?

          • b g

            ROTFLMFAO, have you ever had a good hard look at who sits in the Canadian Humans Rights Council ;-D

          • Speaksvolumes

            Exactly what I was thinking. Kangaroo courts run by feminists.

          • Ajt

            So eithe Alison gets Justice or the Canadian Human Rights Council is cast into the public spotlight and shown to be the Stalinist Authoritarian body that it has long been rumored to be.

          • b g

            Most of the tribunals have already been removed because their behavior were not just rumors. Mary Woo Sims was the head wallaby in British Columbia who publicly pronounced that the truth was no defense.

          • Gwarh

            I was just going to say, it’s unlikely they will get a hearing but they should try for the principle of it all.

          • b g

            ROTFLMAO, do you not understand that those sitting on the tribunals have absolutely no principles? They are Marxist, feminist totalitarians, for them the concepts of justice, due process, or even fair play are completely alien. The Honey Badgers may well have a chance of redress within the Canadian judicial system, but the Human Right Tribunals have long ago abandoned that justice system. Frankly, they are part of the problem ;-D

          • EndlessWinter

            Realistically, if they try this the con will probably try to settle. Specifically because having to defend what they did is something that they can’t do but also something that would make them look bad, and more bad PR is *not* what they want.

        • Bewildered

          Isn’t it time yet for a brand new paradigm ? Like it’s well said ” There’s a first time for everything “

        • Elfa

          I mean really, a lifetime ban for being mildly disruptive at a panel? Even if that part was true, a lifetime fucking ban?!

  • Daniel Baines

    Since the feminists started taking over comic and gaming culture, its inevitable destruction is looming. Their totalitarianism destroys everything it touches. They are so shouty, and have so much muscle, they end up turning everyone against each other along political lines. Comic and gaming culture used to be men’s escape from this. Sadly, even that last bastion is falling. If genuine fans of comics genuinely wanted different types of comics, they’d simply make them, sell them, and shut up. No need to turn it into a political war. The loudness of feminism will never quieten down though. They have to have their political panel discussions on changing culture everywhere they go, with devisive and culturally destructive results. They can’t just let a culture be itself, anywhere.

    • GwenLilyKnight

      mens AND womens escape. we don’t want this either.

      • Daniel Baines

        Don’t worry, I know that. After all… I’m defending a group of women by siding with this article.

      • Bewildered

        Fair enough,but the dissent needs to be dialed up.

        • GwenLilyKnight

          it has. have you seen all the NotYourShield shit??

          • Bewildered

            Yep ! it has revived my hopes in humanity. For too long have these psychos hijacked the social narrative.

    • Omar

      Unfortunately, in general, both men and women are wired to protect women. Since we are no longer in survival mode this basic instinct of survival turns surreal. No matter how insidious, hurtful and just plain badly women act, as long as they say it’s bc they don’t feel “safe” and are being “attacked”, the majority of people will believe them without looking into their actions and thinking critically. It’s pretty breathtaking to watch.

      So now anything that caters towards men’s interests is evil. Anything just for women is necessary. The fact that they keep(and will never stop) screaming how unfair and sexist things are while the reality is people bend over to give them whatever they demand(which will never satisfy them) is evidence enough of who really are the “privileged” ones.

      • Elfa

        I think we have to stop under-estimating these people. We all know how strategic women can be about things. Evolution has made man very susceptible to feminine danger as part of survival and they know this, they use it to their advantage every day for good and evil.

      • Chris Wedge

        The whole idea that “men are wired to protect women” has never adequately explained the willingness of male feminists to so quickly attack women who step out of line. If they were running on an instinct to protect women, as opposed to their feminist tribe, they would do very little.

        • Gwarh

          Maybe Tribalism is stronger than the White Knight impulse. You may be onto something.

          • Chris Wedge

            As is evidenced by gays and straight women being willing to throw men under the bus for feminist ideology or sheer selfish gain, when the white knight impulse should be telling them to try to protect their potential mates. (But, then again, selfish gain is probably outside the paradigm)

        • Omar

          Actually it needs no explanation at all. Men protect women. Since the reality is that women need protection least of all, men rush to placate ever whim complaint of women. If a small percentage of women openly disagree with pampering the majority of women, the males will see this small percentage as misguided and blinded to the plight the poor women face and criticize them.

          • Chris Wedge

            Criticism and attack are two separate things. As a reasonable human being, when I say “attack”, I mean “attack” – as in threaten, ostracise, assault, arrest. No woman-protecting-instinct would ever countenance the treatment of a dissident that way if that dissident was female.

  • Blightness

    Thank you. I was waiting for this write up.

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  • Imdefender Mra

    one thing ben marasco owns Calgary Expo NOT
    Fan Expo Canada

    • Imdefender Mra

      some on twitter are saying that Ben marasco dose not own Calgary Expo one thing is for sure Fan Expo Canada has nothing to do with Calgary Expo

  • Patrick DiSandro

    So the 10k they raised, did they have to pay to attend, or was that to create the merch they were selling?
    If they had to pay to get a booth, do they get their money back?

    I’m actually curious. Meanwhile, “Anti-censorship” now means “Anti-equality”. We sure are goose-stepping into a bright future.

    • chris perez

      They were kicked out and they are not getting their money back. There has to be lawyers in Canada already interested in this story. The event violated their own rules and the Mary Sue committed some serious libel with their story.

      • Danlantic

        The Honey Badgers do have a case. The Calgary Expo’s rules required that they get an “oral warning” as a first stage. That was not done. So the event organizers violated the contract.

        Someone said to protest to their sponsors.

        I wonder who owns the Calgary Expo. I wonder who the sponsors are. I looked at their relevant info page and all it had was email addresses.

        • Factory

          8 Chan has a list up

          • Speaksvolumes

            Link?

        • arrow2010

          Calgary Expo basically acted like totalitarian thugs like in mid-1920s Germany.

        • ArsenicSpritzer

          You can also see the list of the bigger sponsors on the front page of the Expo’s website. There are also two more shows I know about, coming up in Edmonton and Saskatoon (IIRC). They both display a sponsor list as well.

    • gearbox123

      There were no refunds (at least as of right now) given. They are out all the money because DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD CRIMESPEAK.

      • Patrick DiSandro

        Big Brother, man.
        I’ve heard some feminists talk about wage inequality before. And by “feminists” I mean actually intelligent women who were around in the earlier stages, not insane third wave hate mongers. They’ve brought up that there are still some jobs that flat out pay women less because they feel they can get away with it.

        To which I naturally respond, that yes. That is a problem, but it is already illegal to pay someone less based on discriminating factors, gender included. We can’t thought police every employer Big Brother style, all we can do is enforce the laws already in place that make such actions illegal, but that requires anyone caught working for a corrupt employer to step forward and report his/her illegal activities.

        • Chris Wedge

          So, second-wave homophobes? First-wave arsonists? Don’t trust feminists to write their own history books.

    • Mark Neil

      My understanding is that it was a combination of plane fair for some of it’s members to attend, and the fees associated with opening a both. Not sure f merchandising was included or not.

      • Patrick DiSandro

        Even if merchandising was included in that fare, so long as they had to pay ANYTHING to the expo to set up the booth, they should be getting that money back. They didn’t violate the expo policies, they were kicked out because other people didn’t want them there and caused a stink.

      • karen straughan

        We also had to pay for a condo rental for a week to house people. Food is kind of a mish mash of “if you’re in a restaurant, buy your own food, but if we’re eating at the condo it should be expensed”. My gas driving to and from (as well as chauffeuring people to and from the airport and events) is not included in our fundraising goal–it was included in the “stretch goals” if we received more than our initial funding.

        None of us have been compensated for a week off work, either.

        It was very much a matter of just raising enough money for the booth rental, flights and a roof.

        All merchandise (including Alison’s comic) was purchased/produced through moneys we already had on hand (Alison’s comic and Xenospora display stuff from her own money, the HBB and GG stuff from our HBB Patreon funds), on the basis that sales would compensate for the outlay. AFAIK, only the merchandise associated with fundraiser “awards” were factored into the actual fundraiser and paid for with fundraiser money. Stuff we were selling at the booth was out of pocket, either ours or hers.

        • EndlessWinter

          Speaking of the booth, since it was shut down do you all/Alison plan on making that stuff available somewhere online?

          • SNLOps

            That is a great question! I will try and reach out to them to see. I am not sure personally. I know people would want to buy it if they made it available online for sure. Plus it could help recoup some of the costs they ate by going up there.

    • Martin Krischik

      Mostly travel expenses. Dr. Randomercam came from Britain.

  • Andulvar

    Fan Expo Canada does not own Calgary Expo, please change your story.

  • DavidByron

    It’s like American cops. It’s like they just don’t understand people are always recording.

  • Julie Pascal

    Don’t know if Alison will see this, but I wanted to say… those women aren’t typical. You aren’t being bad at being female. They’re the aberration, not you. This “I want to be the protector” thing is totally, deeply, profoundly female. When you explained your motivation I could identify with it wholly. Claiming victimhood is a way of amassing power in our society. I know that. You know that. They know it too. (And now I’ll act like a total girl and say… you do NOT look old enough to have been married for 17 years. And also, the cat in the background looks like a sweetie.)

    • karen straughan

      That cat is the smallest full grown cat I’ve ever seen, and is the smartest cat I’ve ever come across. Apropos of nothing. 😛

      • Girl Geek Allie

        Karen, I’m so thankful that YouTube sent me a notification of your Sad Pound Puppies livestream a couple weeks ago, which is how I became aware of the HBB. I think you’re all amazing ladies, and though what you’ve gone through is despicable, you’ve proven your true strength and commitment to non-victimhood. What Alison says in this video resonated so deeply with me, with the experiences of myself and my sister, who have never quite felt comfortable in female spaces until we found other geek girls.

        • Josh Bray

          I became aware of HBB just about the same time, but due to shared connections. If anything, this is providing awareness for this group… which is a good thing. But the cost is just sad. I really hope to see other convention runners work to distance themselves from these actions.

          Everyone is going to have ideological differences, but we come together for our love of certain mediums and creations/creators. These conventions are supposed to transcend this petty BS, and seeing such doublethink coming from Calgary Expo folks is just amazing. Inclusive space my ass.

  • iggy

    Thank you for being the only accurate journalist I’ve seen on this so far on this topic, and trust me, I’ve looked.

    • Mark Neil

      They’ve somehow managed to control virtually all media out there. It’s no wonder people fear them, when they have that much control. But we’re still suppose to believe they are powerless victims, right?

  • Rick Thomas

    You are blocked from following @Calgaryexpo and viewing @Calgaryexpo’s Tweets.Learn more… Blocked for asking questions regarding this incident.

  • NahnCee

    Any chance of litigation here? For libel or sexism or SOMEthing to hold some feet to the fire? I know Canadians reallly don’t like to rock any boats, but this does seem like such a delicious boat just begging to be rocked.

  • lonetown

    You can probably sue in Canada for being falsely accused of being a harasser. Whats good for the gander is certainly good for the gander.

    • ArsenicSpritzer

      Alison has been maligned and branded a harasser of women in her own professional community. She has more than a humans rights case to fall back on since it could adversely affect her career.

    • http://o.com CaptDMO

      Ooooo…I doubt it.
      There’s a REASON that SOME critics of Canadian political and legal “thinking” call it Cannukistan.
      My IMPRESSION is that Canada doesn’t espouse consequences for the majority of false accusations, when feminine thinking liars are proved to be “at fault”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001702773745 Charles M. Hagmaier

    I used to hang out on The Mary Sue. Can’t say I’m surprised to find them in this up to their necks. For a website supposedly dedicated to kick-ass female protagonists with agency, they’re incredibly neo-Victorian and spinsterish when it comes to confrontation and unfortunate displays of the “retreat into safe spaces” reflex.

    • Josh Bray

      This is a big issue to me, and one I am keeping in mindhere at SuperNerdLand. I would like the site to stay politically neutral, but any critique of this certain school of thought (colloquially termed Social Justice) seems to automatically put you on the side of fight that others are bringing to your doorstep. I feel there are amazing examples in gaming, comics, books, and people of all sexes, genders, orientations ect that exemplify their spaces. It’s getting to the point where the noise and furor over viewpoint differences is starting to not just distract from these examples, but is causing people to devote precious time, energy, and emotion into thinks like social media defend and attack patterns rather than doing what we are all here to venerate: Creation.

      I want to celebrate the things we find passion in, but won’t shy away from covering events and analysis of issues related to the geek-sphere. We just, sadly, can’t ignore certain things. In this specific case, it really rubs me the wrong way because these conventions and expos are supposed to be events that people come together to share in their passions. People will always have ideological differences, but these events are made to surpass that and celebrate the creative mediums we adore.

      We’ve reached out, again, this morning to The Calgary Expo. We would really like to treat this event as fairly as we can, and want to present them the opportunity to comment farther on their statement, or to answer questions. I feel so much of what is occurring these days are misunderstandings that blow up because no one wants to admit their are possibly wrong or reflect on the consequences of their approach.

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      EiC/Writer-SuperNerdLand

      • ArsenicSpritzer

        I imagine at this point, they’ve been in contact with their lawyers, who have given them the very sound advice: “Shut up and don’t do anymore damage”.

        • Josh Bray

          Yeah.. especially after the Expo called the cops on the HBB just because they were hanging out at a park. Which I am updating in the story today. This is getting ridiculous. I just… gah.

  • http://thevailspot.blogspot.com/ Rich Vail

    I’d say that it’s perfectly acceptable to boycott all events ownd by the Expo presenters…and to picket them for it.

  • crydiego

    OK, that’s enough! You are all now banned by the Calgary Expo and you must vacate the comment section, — immediately!!
    Come on, move along! Pack up your stuff and get out!

  • Rene Caron

    Where are all the white knights for Alison? Alison isn’t getting love from the white knights because a) she doesn’t plaster her face and body with female signifiers and b) she refuses to play damsel.

    • Chris Wedge

      C: She’s no damned feminist SJW. That’s the important bit.

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  • BadgerFan

    here is the thing
    humans are social creatures. damsel effects are created because of our want to care about one another
    As soon as you tell people in a big way about a bad event that’s happened to you, you become a damsel. Its a sad fact about humans. male or female it happens. the scale is based on your scale of influence. its not bad as long as you are not a professional damsel
    but folk love victims
    its ingrained in our lizard brain
    as it were
    we are made to care
    this is tragic in more than one way for the honey badgers
    but justice will be served and they won’t live off the victim hood of this incident
    they didn’t want it
    they don’t deserve it

  • Martin Krischik

    I ever so angry. But, you know what is worse: I am not at all surprised. It is what the world under feminism has come to.

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  • http://o.com CaptDMO

    Uh oh. Somebody’s gonna’ have to get all Sad/Rabid Puppies on Calgary Expo’s ass!
    Remember: no addresses, phone nos., inconsequential family, if doxxing the “anonymous” complainants, management “enforcement” executives/appointees, OR the group affiliations printed on the cards they may carry.
    Pro tip: Screen shots are your friend in this era of “unexpected hard drive erasure”.
    CV/Resume citation of “altruistic” SJW folk is encouraged!

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  • Eskimo

    What has the world come to when everyone cow-tows to the most easily offended (so long as it is coming from a women – men can’t be offended, of course) and in so doing denies others their basic human rights.

    Fuck Calgary Expo.

  • MrJest

    Welp. I never had opportunity to go to the Calgary Expo… but now I have reason to NEVER go. They have just earned a “lifetime ban” of my moneys.

  • Cinaedofdork

    Its funny how with lots of hearsay and little fact, people can form an opinion that has little to do with fact. I feel that this is a bit done by one side or the other to get publicity on a larger scale. As Phineas T. Barnum says, there is no such thing as bad publicity.

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  • Gwarh

    They are not interested in creating “safe spaces” for everyone, they are interested in creating spaces where only their world view is allow.

    Safe Spaces is SJW doublespeak for spaces only safe for their ideologies, dissenting views must be banished.

  • Jen

    I watched Alison’s video earlier this evening. I am a feminist, and I also agree with a lot of her points. (It is my personal opinion that she actually expresses a lot of common ground…frustration with how women are seen or expected to present themselves – and how that is unnecessary – and I agree.) I was initially disappointed that these woman would be treated this way just for having a controversial and/or unpopular opinion. BUT that does not seem to be what happened here. In her video above, she mentions that she applied to get space to represent her comics….and that it only became more of a HBB thing later. Meaning the initial application was for her, NOT HBB? IF that’s the case then the organizers have a point….the application would indeed have been made under false pretences and therefore their Expo would be well within their rights to withdraw the right to exhibit at their event. Moving on, why would they have bothered calling police? Unless they ALSO refused to comply with requests to vacate (now THAT would be thug-like, if anything).

    • Jen

      I’ll openly admit that my argument completely goes out the window if I’m mistaken though. If proper procedure was honestly followed….and that initial application for floor space was specifically made for Honey Badgers (as opposed to some childish bait-and-switch to attempt to “infiltrate”), then I would say that the Expo would no longer be in the right here. At all.

    • J.G. te Molder

      Actually, they don’t have a point.

      Unless they want to claim outright that from the get go they should have the right to censor and discriminate against people with different opinions on their own, and somehow circumventing their claimed right to censor and discriminate is some evil method that would allow them to unleash that very censorship and discrimination they don’t have a point at all.

      • Jen

        I can’t think of a single expo or convention where you don’t have to make an application and have the stuff you display reviewed or approved by organizers in advance. You can’t just rent a space and put up whatever you like, anywhere, ever.

        The HBBs would be in a much better position, with a much better argument (inline with yours) IF they had complied to the rules and regulations and filled out the initial application honestly. That would put this whole misrepresentation argument to rest, and make it harder for the organizers to justify their eviction. Personally, I still think it will be hard for them to justify a life-time ban, tho. I hope the HBBs learn a lesson from this, and do things the right way if they get another chance. It would be potentially great if they held a panel to act as outreach + engage more people.

        Time will tell, I guess.

        • A Real Libertarian

          Here’s the listing before & after the HBB was memory-holed.

          https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDFKkmCUsAAwN73.png:orig

          I hope the HBBs learn a lesson from this

          What lesson could they learn? They already know to have a camera so when the SJWs claim they were doing something wrong they can debunk it> They already know that anything they do will be twisted to condemn them. And they’ve prepared for fire alarms being pulled, screaming mods going after anyone near them, and loudspeakers being used to shout them down.

          And they’re going to file a lawsuit, which will:

          1. Draining the SJWs funds.
          2. Provide a financial incentive to not do this anymore.
          3. Deliver a blow to the SJW narrative (being found wrong in a court of law).
          4. Create a legal precedent (just in one country but still).

    • Josh Bray

      What happened is they DID register at the expo under the comic Alison created. Members of HBB also work on the comic and the site the comic is on. So it’s more of a crossover kind of thing.. They did register under the comic, and some but all people sent worked on the comic itself. They brought quite a few people to help out with the event booth it self that didn’t work on the comic but they were just extra hands. Calgary (should) screen all applicants. I never seen an convention or expo that sold space and did not look up who people are.

      TL;DR: A good number of people that HBB sent to the expo actually did work on Alison’s comic and they happened to want to sell Gamergate related merchandise as well as just participate in the days events and panels.

  • Jess

    Feminists hate facts. Notice how all feminist blogs moderate comments under the guise of “abuse”. Goes to show why “damseling” exists. It is every feminist’s MO. I was banned from Mary Sue for saying that if we made a public campaign of “WomanSpreading” there would be a whine parade heard all around the world on grounds of misogyny. Apparently I was being abusive.